Episode 141

The "New" AI Hiring Skills Are the Ones You Always Needed

Open any hiring feed this year and you'll find a fresh list of skills for the AI era. Discernment. Judgment. Taste. Bob Galen and Josh Anderson think the list is fine. They just think it's old.

The human skills behind every team they're proud of (collaboration, coachability, comfort with ambiguity, a willingness to have the hard conversation) were always the job. AI picked up more of the technical work, and now everyone's noticing what was there the whole time.

Josh walks through how he hired a new squad every quarter at Dude Solutions without the whole thing resting on his shoulders. The team read Debugging Teams together so everyone shared the same picture of a great teammate. Then they wrote interview question sets for each trait and split them across the interview panel. When a hire missed, they treated it like a bug in the system and fixed the process before the next round.

Bob brings his attitude, aptitude, skills ordering, makes the case for working interviews where candidates spend an hour or two with the team, and draws a hard line on coachability. Josh pushes back with the people who've only ever worked for bad leaders and need someone to show them another way. (Bob agrees with him, which annoys Bob.)

They also get into neurodiversity and why "good teammate" can't mean "smiles a lot," why a team needs both the "yes we can" and the "no we can't" voices in the room, and why Josh wants you to hear one thing clearly: technical skill still matters. It's just easier to teach.

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Josh Anderson

Josh Anderson is a seasoned software professional with a passion for agile methodologies and continuous improvement. As one of the hosts of The Meta-Cast podcast, Josh brings his wealth of experience and expertise to the table. With a knack for practical advice and a penchant for engaging storytelling, Josh captivates listeners with his insights on agile methodology, team dynamics, and software development best practices. His infectious enthusiasm and dedication to helping others succeed make him a valuable resource for aspiring software professionals.
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Bob Galen

Bob Galen is a recognized industry leader and an authority on agile practices and software architecture. With years of hands-on experience, Bob brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to The Meta-Cast podcast. As a co-host, he delves into topics ranging from agile fluency to organizational transformations, providing listeners with invaluable insights and strategies. Bob's charismatic and humorous style, combined with his ability to simplify complex concepts, makes him a fan-favorite among software professionals seeking guidance on navigating the challenges of agile development. His passion for continuous learning and his dedication to helping teams succeed shine through in each episode of the podcast.

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